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	<title>Comments on: Correcting Matt Chancey&#8217;s Wordpress &#8220;analysis&#8221;</title>
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	<description>Proving all things. Discerning the truth. Wise unto good.</description>
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		<title>By: Anne Shirley</title>
		<link>http://www.simply-christian.org/blog/2007/01/correcting-matt-chanceys-wordpress-analysis/comment-page-1/#comment-1357</link>
		<dc:creator>Anne Shirley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 18:55:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BGiromini,

I don't know if David is a part of Matt's team, but the Ethell family is quite close, and Matt's own wife has considerable web expertise.  I had always thought David was an ethical person, but I knew him pre-Chancey--so who knows what he's like now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BGiromini,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if David is a part of Matt&#8217;s team, but the Ethell family is quite close, and Matt&#8217;s own wife has considerable web expertise.  I had always thought David was an ethical person, but I knew him pre-Chancey&#8211;so who knows what he&#8217;s like now?</p>
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		<title>By: BGiromini</title>
		<link>http://www.simply-christian.org/blog/2007/01/correcting-matt-chanceys-wordpress-analysis/comment-page-1/#comment-1266</link>
		<dc:creator>BGiromini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 00:01:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anne,

Thanks for the information. I noticed that Mrs B. is hosted at the same exact IP address 207.44.178.9 as ethell.com. So it seems that Matt Chancey had family assistance in setting up his conspiracy site. I wonder if David Ethell is part of Matt's team?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anne,</p>
<p>Thanks for the information. I noticed that Mrs B. is hosted at the same exact IP address 207.44.178.9 as ethell.com. So it seems that Matt Chancey had family assistance in setting up his conspiracy site. I wonder if David Ethell is part of Matt&#8217;s team?</p>
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		<title>By: Anne Shirley</title>
		<link>http://www.simply-christian.org/blog/2007/01/correcting-matt-chanceys-wordpress-analysis/comment-page-1/#comment-1237</link>
		<dc:creator>Anne Shirley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Feb 2007 18:16:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>About Matt Chancey's technical prowess:  his wife knows quite a bit about computers and his brother-in-law, David Ethell, is a computer science specialist who used to run his own web hosting company.  No lack of technical capability there--except maybe in the patriarch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About Matt Chancey&#8217;s technical prowess:  his wife knows quite a bit about computers and his brother-in-law, David Ethell, is a computer science specialist who used to run his own web hosting company.  No lack of technical capability there&#8211;except maybe in the patriarch.</p>
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		<title>By: Justice Prima</title>
		<link>http://www.simply-christian.org/blog/2007/01/correcting-matt-chanceys-wordpress-analysis/comment-page-1/#comment-1130</link>
		<dc:creator>Justice Prima</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 03:33:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought it was sadly more of the same, same wild guesses, same speculation, same connecting the dots with a spray paint can, same unsupported theories offered as though a wild guess from Matt was as good evidence from a seasoned detective.

It's sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought it was sadly more of the same, same wild guesses, same speculation, same connecting the dots with a spray paint can, same unsupported theories offered as though a wild guess from Matt was as good evidence from a seasoned detective.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s sad.</p>
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		<title>By: BGiromini</title>
		<link>http://www.simply-christian.org/blog/2007/01/correcting-matt-chanceys-wordpress-analysis/comment-page-1/#comment-1118</link>
		<dc:creator>BGiromini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 20:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Justice Prima,

Yes, I found out this morning. But, that is how vast the conspiracy is, when you had no idea you were in it to begin with! What did you think of the  "analysis'?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Justice Prima,</p>
<p>Yes, I found out this morning. But, that is how vast the conspiracy is, when you had no idea you were in it to begin with! What did you think of the  &#8220;analysis&#8217;?</p>
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		<title>By: Justice Prima</title>
		<link>http://www.simply-christian.org/blog/2007/01/correcting-matt-chanceys-wordpress-analysis/comment-page-1/#comment-1117</link>
		<dc:creator>Justice Prima</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 19:57:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brandon, you wll want to read footnote 49 in Matt's latest screed.  Did you know that you are a key lesser known player in this vast conspiracy?

I thought you might not realize it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brandon, you wll want to read footnote 49 in Matt&#8217;s latest screed.  Did you know that you are a key lesser known player in this vast conspiracy?</p>
<p>I thought you might not realize it.</p>
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		<title>By: BGiromini</title>
		<link>http://www.simply-christian.org/blog/2007/01/correcting-matt-chanceys-wordpress-analysis/comment-page-1/#comment-1116</link>
		<dc:creator>BGiromini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 19:43:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;"Joe Friday"&lt;/strong&gt;,

Thanks for the complement. If you think Matt's previous work was "piles of speculation on top of conjecture" wait till you read his latest installment. What happened to the "hundreds of documents" that he had? Why doesn't he post them online for all the world to see, so we can weigh the "evidence"?

I wouldn't be so quick the accuse the "team members" of hacking the site. I would like to think that a professing Christian would not have that specific skill in his arsenal. I do however, believe that the hack of ministrywatchman.com was professional, meaning someone hired a hacker to do the dirty work. Are you starting to see the extremes that one will go to shutdown any opposition?

&lt;strong&gt;DaveS&lt;/strong&gt;,

I didn't know Harry had his own hosting company, I thought he just had a web design business. May I ask what was Seabrook's sophomoric mistake? Technically anyone can access the file directory of any site, as long as they have the right user name and password. Now, did he use strong passwords? I would sure hope so if he knows anything about web hosting.

Of course, with all the Christian blogs being hacked, one must wonder if something else is going on. While I am not totally convinced of Little Geneva's hack and believe it doesn't fit the MO of other hacked sites,  however ministrywatchman.com was taken down. Now, who would want ministrywatchman.com to go away?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>&#8220;Joe Friday&#8221;</strong>,</p>
<p>Thanks for the complement. If you think Matt&#8217;s previous work was &#8220;piles of speculation on top of conjecture&#8221; wait till you read his latest installment. What happened to the &#8220;hundreds of documents&#8221; that he had? Why doesn&#8217;t he post them online for all the world to see, so we can weigh the &#8220;evidence&#8221;?</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t be so quick the accuse the &#8220;team members&#8221; of hacking the site. I would like to think that a professing Christian would not have that specific skill in his arsenal. I do however, believe that the hack of ministrywatchman.com was professional, meaning someone hired a hacker to do the dirty work. Are you starting to see the extremes that one will go to shutdown any opposition?</p>
<p><strong>DaveS</strong>,</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t know Harry had his own hosting company, I thought he just had a web design business. May I ask what was Seabrook&#8217;s sophomoric mistake? Technically anyone can access the file directory of any site, as long as they have the right user name and password. Now, did he use strong passwords? I would sure hope so if he knows anything about web hosting.</p>
<p>Of course, with all the Christian blogs being hacked, one must wonder if something else is going on. While I am not totally convinced of Little Geneva&#8217;s hack and believe it doesn&#8217;t fit the MO of other hacked sites,  however ministrywatchman.com was taken down. Now, who would want ministrywatchman.com to go away?</p>
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		<title>By: DaveS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DaveS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jan 2007 01:02:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brandon, you are 100% correct in your research. As someone who works with SQL databases every day, I commend you on your clear explanation. However, you should also point out to your readers that the chances that Harry Seabrook, an IT professional who runs his own internet hosting comany, would make such a sophmoric mistake are extremely slim. You admit that it is improbable, but the odds are stacked heavily in the favor of Matt Chancey's analysis, even if his technical write-up was less exact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brandon, you are 100% correct in your research. As someone who works with SQL databases every day, I commend you on your clear explanation. However, you should also point out to your readers that the chances that Harry Seabrook, an IT professional who runs his own internet hosting comany, would make such a sophmoric mistake are extremely slim. You admit that it is improbable, but the odds are stacked heavily in the favor of Matt Chancey&#8217;s analysis, even if his technical write-up was less exact.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Friday</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Friday</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 21:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When all these accusations against Doug Phillips started coming out I didn't want to believe it. You want to know what made me start to believe it? Matt Chancey! I know for a fact that Chancey and Phillips are close personal friends. For Chancey to put up that foolish Mrs. Binoculars site and call it an "independent investigation" is just laughable. But it's not just laughable when Doug Phillips/Vision Forum posts links to Mrs. Binoculars and he also calls it an "independent investigation." That's just a lie, a really big lie. 

Chancey piles speculation on top of conjecture on top of trickery and calls it "proof." The first time I saw it I thought it must be some kind of parody site. But the guy seems to actually take himself real seriously! Or at least he expects us all to take it seriously. 

Brandon this is all very helpful. Thanks for explaining something that most of the rest of us are ignorant about. Chancey can throw out his technical lingo and it's hard for a guy like me to know if he's got his facts straight or not. Notice I didn't say "if he's telling the truth or not" because as far as I'm concerned the man is just a political hatchet man. 

I've heard that Matt Chancey probably doesn't know very much technically. Some other members of his "team" must have wrote a lot of that techno stuff. The thing that really struck me about it all is he's got a "team" of guys who are probably very competent technically. They know a lot about how to hack computers. Why would someone know so much about hacking computers if they weren't computer hackers themselves? With all that knowledge couldn't they have been the ones to hack Seabrook's site? Couldn't they have hacked his site in a way to cover their own tracks? Wouldn't one of the best ways to cover their tracks be to make it look like Seabrook did it himself? 

They could get a lot of mileage out of a story like that, that is if anyone believed them. I for one don't buy it, and with what you've pointed out here Brandon I'm even less likely to buy Chancey's hacking story. Why would anyone believe anything a guy like that says after the kind of crazy story that he put out about Jen Epsteins being "Mrs. Binoculars"? Even though he now looks like a complete fool he still believes his own story!

It's obvious that Chancey is malicious enough to pay someone to hack Seabrook's site since he's trying to also get Seabrook fired. Regardless of what we think about Seabrook's racism (and I sure don't like it), Chancey must be one really evil man to try and get someone fired. Seabrook has a wife and kids to provide for. Why would a "family man" like Matt Chancey be so malicious that he'd want to see another family suffer financial hardship? Is that Christian? 

Doug Phillips should be ashamed to keep company with hatchet men like Matt Chancey.  If it were just one Matt Chancey I might not be so worried now about Doug Phillips. But there's also that Still Fed Up site, run by Doug Phillips' "former interns." From what I've been told "former intern" is Vision Forum code language for "current Vision Forum employee." I guess we're supposed to believe that the Still Fed Up boys are as "independent" as Matt Chancey is? And just what kind of training is it that Doug Phillips gives his "interns"?

You can tell a lot about a man by the friends he has, or as my father often said, "A man is known by the company he keeps."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When all these accusations against Doug Phillips started coming out I didn&#8217;t want to believe it. You want to know what made me start to believe it? Matt Chancey! I know for a fact that Chancey and Phillips are close personal friends. For Chancey to put up that foolish Mrs. Binoculars site and call it an &#8220;independent investigation&#8221; is just laughable. But it&#8217;s not just laughable when Doug Phillips/Vision Forum posts links to Mrs. Binoculars and he also calls it an &#8220;independent investigation.&#8221; That&#8217;s just a lie, a really big lie. </p>
<p>Chancey piles speculation on top of conjecture on top of trickery and calls it &#8220;proof.&#8221; The first time I saw it I thought it must be some kind of parody site. But the guy seems to actually take himself real seriously! Or at least he expects us all to take it seriously. </p>
<p>Brandon this is all very helpful. Thanks for explaining something that most of the rest of us are ignorant about. Chancey can throw out his technical lingo and it&#8217;s hard for a guy like me to know if he&#8217;s got his facts straight or not. Notice I didn&#8217;t say &#8220;if he&#8217;s telling the truth or not&#8221; because as far as I&#8217;m concerned the man is just a political hatchet man. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve heard that Matt Chancey probably doesn&#8217;t know very much technically. Some other members of his &#8220;team&#8221; must have wrote a lot of that techno stuff. The thing that really struck me about it all is he&#8217;s got a &#8220;team&#8221; of guys who are probably very competent technically. They know a lot about how to hack computers. Why would someone know so much about hacking computers if they weren&#8217;t computer hackers themselves? With all that knowledge couldn&#8217;t they have been the ones to hack Seabrook&#8217;s site? Couldn&#8217;t they have hacked his site in a way to cover their own tracks? Wouldn&#8217;t one of the best ways to cover their tracks be to make it look like Seabrook did it himself? </p>
<p>They could get a lot of mileage out of a story like that, that is if anyone believed them. I for one don&#8217;t buy it, and with what you&#8217;ve pointed out here Brandon I&#8217;m even less likely to buy Chancey&#8217;s hacking story. Why would anyone believe anything a guy like that says after the kind of crazy story that he put out about Jen Epsteins being &#8220;Mrs. Binoculars&#8221;? Even though he now looks like a complete fool he still believes his own story!</p>
<p>It&#8217;s obvious that Chancey is malicious enough to pay someone to hack Seabrook&#8217;s site since he&#8217;s trying to also get Seabrook fired. Regardless of what we think about Seabrook&#8217;s racism (and I sure don&#8217;t like it), Chancey must be one really evil man to try and get someone fired. Seabrook has a wife and kids to provide for. Why would a &#8220;family man&#8221; like Matt Chancey be so malicious that he&#8217;d want to see another family suffer financial hardship? Is that Christian? </p>
<p>Doug Phillips should be ashamed to keep company with hatchet men like Matt Chancey.  If it were just one Matt Chancey I might not be so worried now about Doug Phillips. But there&#8217;s also that Still Fed Up site, run by Doug Phillips&#8217; &#8220;former interns.&#8221; From what I&#8217;ve been told &#8220;former intern&#8221; is Vision Forum code language for &#8220;current Vision Forum employee.&#8221; I guess we&#8217;re supposed to believe that the Still Fed Up boys are as &#8220;independent&#8221; as Matt Chancey is? And just what kind of training is it that Doug Phillips gives his &#8220;interns&#8221;?</p>
<p>You can tell a lot about a man by the friends he has, or as my father often said, &#8220;A man is known by the company he keeps.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: BGiromini</title>
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		<dc:creator>BGiromini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 16:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Maxwell Smart",

Good work. I checked, and the Google cache in currently showing Jan 6, 2007 as the date of the file, with Natasha Epstein now missing as a runner-up. But, I was still able to retrieve a pdf copy from the internet. I will post a link tonight. It does seem however that Vision Forum is not being completely truthful by omitting one of the runner-ups. So when Doug and Bealle Phillips congratulate the winners and runner-ups does that mean they are now revoking Natasha Epstein's congratulation?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Maxwell Smart&#8221;,</p>
<p>Good work. I checked, and the Google cache in currently showing Jan 6, 2007 as the date of the file, with Natasha Epstein now missing as a runner-up. But, I was still able to retrieve a pdf copy from the internet. I will post a link tonight. It does seem however that Vision Forum is not being completely truthful by omitting one of the runner-ups. So when Doug and Bealle Phillips congratulate the winners and runner-ups does that mean they are now revoking Natasha Epstein&#8217;s congratulation?</p>
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